These Ukrainian nationalists couldn't come up with an indigenous word for their country? Instead they call their region/country Ukraine which is, as I understand it, originated from Polish usage to describe the southeastern border zone of their empire, "y" +"krai" (on + border). While the area identified as Ukraine is a real place filled with real people, you would think, if they were a real long existing nationality they would have their own name, not something bestowed upon them by outsiders. There is a lot of make-believe in Ukrainian national identity it seems.
The word "Ukraine" shows up on various maps going back into the mid-100s AD, but the word always denotes a region or zone rather than any sort of political entity. Think of maps denoting the zones occupied by the various indigenous tribes of N. America. Its borders, such as they were, were defined by its neighbours rather than any notion of sovereignty.
Sparsely populated, mostly by escaped serfs, Ukraine was a fluidly defined region that remained a sort of no-man's-land until the population coalesced around various Cossack warlords ca: 1500. The primary occupations were brigandage and mercenarism, and the largest and strongest of these groups emerged as the famous Zaporozhian Cossacks in the 1600s.
"Ukraine" first appears as a political entity on an Austrian map just after WW1, as a short-lived part of the collapsing Austro-Hungarian Empire. Immediately thereafter, "Ukraine" was lost to the Bolsheviks and given the status of a Soviet Socialist Republic by Lenin in 1922. As such it remained a province/state of the USSR until 1991.
It is only then that "Ukraine" became a sovereign nation-state for the first time.
As to - "When the NeoNazis took power in Ukraine, following CIA script, they immediately tried to wipe the region free of all things Russian — culture, religion, and most especially language. Genocide? At the very least ethnocide," - talk about beating a dead horse? That quote is in the same category as calling China communist, DaEmpire of Evil's wars as DaWar on Terror, Iran as a terrorist state, Putin as a thug etcetc - Seemingly a deliberate effort to deflect the blame or focus to an entity that doesn't even exist anymore.....except in language. As far as I know......Hitler is dead.....but not the convenient catchall term to keep the ignorant IGNORANT!
Anyone still blaming Nazis for our evils puts themselves in the same gang as DaNeoCons..... the emphasis on Con ...itself a proxy for DaSynagogue of Satan (DSOS). Willful IGNORANCE! At the least you should draw income from your patron as controlled opposition - otherwise you're giving DSOS a freebie!
Congratulations!
BTW - most servants of DSOS speak English! They'll speak any language necessary to carry on their parasitic practice - and once they've drawn all they can from their current host - it's on to another insouciant dumbed downed host whose culture they converge first.
Ukrainian is a synthetic language invented by Austro-Hungarian Nazi proto-linguists for hicks. There are 3 totally syntehtic languages I know of. All three were invented for political reasons:
1. Esperanto
2. Hebrew
3. Ukrainian
None of them will ever survive or be adapted by more than a small minority. The latter two in particular, were fabricated for nefarious reasons of faking identity and creating mayhem in a region.
Ukrainian always struck me as being like Quebecois, the “hillbilly” version of French. My High School French teacher was Quebecois, so that is what I first learned. It drew a few laughs when I used my HS French in Paris, but they understood it, and I understood them.
Only ~1/3 of 16thC France spoke French. The rest spoke regional languages. Most early Quebec settlers came from NW France - Brittany, Normandy, Poitou, with a minority from Paris. Quebecois thus evolved out those regional languages, assimilating some English along the way.
I've no opinion on the matter, but the French I know say they love the sound of it and some linguists claim that its pronunciation remains closer to "the King's French" of the 16th/17C than modern French.
These Ukrainian nationalists couldn't come up with an indigenous word for their country? Instead they call their region/country Ukraine which is, as I understand it, originated from Polish usage to describe the southeastern border zone of their empire, "y" +"krai" (on + border). While the area identified as Ukraine is a real place filled with real people, you would think, if they were a real long existing nationality they would have their own name, not something bestowed upon them by outsiders. There is a lot of make-believe in Ukrainian national identity it seems.
Making a short, but lively story even shorter...
The word "Ukraine" shows up on various maps going back into the mid-100s AD, but the word always denotes a region or zone rather than any sort of political entity. Think of maps denoting the zones occupied by the various indigenous tribes of N. America. Its borders, such as they were, were defined by its neighbours rather than any notion of sovereignty.
Sparsely populated, mostly by escaped serfs, Ukraine was a fluidly defined region that remained a sort of no-man's-land until the population coalesced around various Cossack warlords ca: 1500. The primary occupations were brigandage and mercenarism, and the largest and strongest of these groups emerged as the famous Zaporozhian Cossacks in the 1600s.
"Ukraine" first appears as a political entity on an Austrian map just after WW1, as a short-lived part of the collapsing Austro-Hungarian Empire. Immediately thereafter, "Ukraine" was lost to the Bolsheviks and given the status of a Soviet Socialist Republic by Lenin in 1922. As such it remained a province/state of the USSR until 1991.
It is only then that "Ukraine" became a sovereign nation-state for the first time.
As to - "When the NeoNazis took power in Ukraine, following CIA script, they immediately tried to wipe the region free of all things Russian — culture, religion, and most especially language. Genocide? At the very least ethnocide," - talk about beating a dead horse? That quote is in the same category as calling China communist, DaEmpire of Evil's wars as DaWar on Terror, Iran as a terrorist state, Putin as a thug etcetc - Seemingly a deliberate effort to deflect the blame or focus to an entity that doesn't even exist anymore.....except in language. As far as I know......Hitler is dead.....but not the convenient catchall term to keep the ignorant IGNORANT!
Anyone still blaming Nazis for our evils puts themselves in the same gang as DaNeoCons..... the emphasis on Con ...itself a proxy for DaSynagogue of Satan (DSOS). Willful IGNORANCE! At the least you should draw income from your patron as controlled opposition - otherwise you're giving DSOS a freebie!
Congratulations!
BTW - most servants of DSOS speak English! They'll speak any language necessary to carry on their parasitic practice - and once they've drawn all they can from their current host - it's on to another insouciant dumbed downed host whose culture they converge first.
Okraina means, literally, 'the edge' or 'borderlands'.
Ukrainian is a synthetic language invented by Austro-Hungarian Nazi proto-linguists for hicks. There are 3 totally syntehtic languages I know of. All three were invented for political reasons:
1. Esperanto
2. Hebrew
3. Ukrainian
None of them will ever survive or be adapted by more than a small minority. The latter two in particular, were fabricated for nefarious reasons of faking identity and creating mayhem in a region.
Ukrainian always struck me as being like Quebecois, the “hillbilly” version of French. My High School French teacher was Quebecois, so that is what I first learned. It drew a few laughs when I used my HS French in Paris, but they understood it, and I understood them.
Only ~1/3 of 16thC France spoke French. The rest spoke regional languages. Most early Quebec settlers came from NW France - Brittany, Normandy, Poitou, with a minority from Paris. Quebecois thus evolved out those regional languages, assimilating some English along the way.
I've no opinion on the matter, but the French I know say they love the sound of it and some linguists claim that its pronunciation remains closer to "the King's French" of the 16th/17C than modern French.