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Serial Misfit's avatar

Meantime in Australia, you'd be hard pressed to find an article about the massacre in the Middle East in our national "leftist" news, and on our national "leftist" tv channels (the news on which I haven't been able to stomach in years, therefore I haven't watched since I don't know when), there's CONTINUOUS appeals from UNHCR to please pledge our support to the poor refugees. Of Ukraine.

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Caribbean Hawk's avatar

You may or may not have noticed but the vast majority of the alternate MAGA media tend to swallow hook-line-and-sinker the Zelenski-Ukraine lies about Russia, Iran and North Korea. It makes one wonder how deep are their current anti-war convictions. It reminds of how the Democrats were vocally anti-war during the Bush-Cheney admin and this noise quickly died off as soon as Obama took office and thereafter started 7 new wars.

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JennyStokes's avatar

New one today as the 'circus' comes nearer.

Trump says Iran is trying to assassinate him!

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djean111's avatar

Well, somebody is, I will give him that. The Iran accusations are just for we peasants, methinks, to justify (as if they would really hesitate) attacking Iran directly. Just IMO.

Also, Hi right back, and it was odd to contemplate that all of this roiled on while Milton took away my power and internet!

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djean111's avatar

I have not watched $MSM for years, ever since I cut the cable TV cord. My assumption is that everything Zelensky says is a lie in order to keep the grift flowing, and to try and induce NATO/US into direct war with Russia. I do believe Zelensky is wavering between having that expensive house next to Sean Penn, and appearing on all the talk shows, or riding into Red Square on a white horse, with Putin taped to a tree. Two fantasies. My fear is that there will be a desperate Hail Mary of a nuclear strike on Moscow and St. Petersburg.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Hi djean.

Even if NATO got into a war with Russia........they won't win!

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djean111's avatar

Oh, I know. It is just the escalation and specter of WWIII that scares me and excites Zelensky and the US.

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JennyStokes's avatar

We wouldn't be human if we were not scared.........good point.

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Julian Macfarlane's avatar

I wish more people were more scared.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Yes.

Brainless people know nothing so they are not scared.

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Occupy Schagen's avatar

Thank you again...

I have some sensing results around the possible actions Zelensky is INTENDING to reach with his 'Victory Plan'.

It is a blackmail tool for the US+NATO-ZioNazi Elites and supporters (Deep State, BlackRock, Billionaires etc.).

They want ultimately a sort of Freeze but NOT a Surrender.

Why ?

In a Freeze the current 'Ukraine' remains The Facto & The Jure to exist, complete or at least partly, and the Assets of the 'Investors' of Project Ukraine remain to exist too.

Also it could become a basis for Terrorist Insurgences even as 'government in exile'.

And Zelensky could stay alive and receive MONEY.

But WHY should they feel obliged to follow his plan (Kiev as NATO-member today or at least very soon) ?

The blackmail is: WHEN THEY DO NOT follow his plan, HE as current President and leader of government and possibly supported by the Kiev RADA and the Protesters on the streets, will completely Surrender and submit to a Defeat, after which there will NOT be a Ukraine Entity that could protect the assets of the BlackRocks and its Debts to the West. It will be controlled by Russia.

Simple as that.

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I am curious for reactions.

My guess is, that he will be Assassinated (AZOV-Brigade etc.) when he is going to do that, but maybe he has some support from the rest of the Army (and RADA + Protesters)

Another guess is that Russia will NOT accept his signature under a Surrender...

Sander

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Julian Macfarlane's avatar

Russia has already said Z is illegitimate. That invalidates anything he does.

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djean111's avatar

The bizarre thing about any and all "victory" plans is - why would Russia agree with anything?

Or even acknowledge anything? Is there that much delusion that Ukraine has Russia over a barrel? I could come up with a victory plan wherein a major bank gives me ten million dollars, but that does not mean the bank has to do that. Or even listen to it. This is not a plan, this is, as others have said, just a wish list. Has nothing to do with Russia at all.

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Occupy Schagen's avatar

My thought was: Russia does not want a freeze. They want a Surrender.

The DeepState wants Zelensky to keep fighting and to create a government in exile, when a freeze is impossible (which it is) so they can keep a juridical claim on their "assets" and try to get their money back from Russia later. They never learn... that is true...

If they have to do a "Write off" of all those Billions "investment", they will accelerate the break down into an economic depression of the US.

Sander

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Julian Macfarlane's avatar

What this exposes is the enormous value of Ukrainian resources. In Iraq it was oil. Ukraine is arguably richer. Another reason for Russia to take full control of Ukraine. These resources will pay for rebuilding -- and then some.

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Franz Kafka's avatar

The real prize in the mind of the Unisex Fellatio and Pedophile Child Sacrifice Cult is still Russia. There is much wailing and gnashing of teeth about losing that prize in all the vampire palaces of the West.

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djean111's avatar

I totally agree, thanks for the reply. As long as there is money to be grifted, Zelensky and his ilk will keep sending terrorists into Russia.

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Julian Macfarlane's avatar

Z is a small time grifter. The US is big time.

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Franz Kafka's avatar

The US is not so much "big" compared to Z as "less small". Having Corporate shill and bagman (psychopath) Biden about to be replaced by hybrid, shape-shifting, mulatto comfort-woman and fellatio artist Camille, of parentage unknown, is proof of that assertion. The devil is in the multitude of details, or "Tsunami of Information" in modern CIA parlance.

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Franz Kafka's avatar

I believe the little penis-piano-playing jew has a CIA-approved/staffed detail of bodyguards which will only kill him, or allow his Azov chums to kill him, when Mr Big in Langley decides Zed's time is up.

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KC Erasmus's avatar

According to Zelensky, 10 000 North Koreans have been sent to the Ukraine to fight for Russia, now to give that some perspective, that's only half of the Ukrainian troops that have been killed in Kursk so far.

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Julian Macfarlane's avatar

So far Ukrainian casualties are 24,000. Mercs are not counted - so add on another 1000 for good ,measure.

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William White's avatar

The CBC just sucks whatever cock Joe says to suck, same as Poilievre and Trudit

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Julian Macfarlane's avatar

That's why I gave up working for them.

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Franz Kafka's avatar

Msieur Peahare recently nibbled on circumcised members leading to the CIABC/CIATV headline: "Peahare stands with Jews". Considering all the SSholes who said they 'stood with Ukraine' until recently, I think the Jews should make sure someone 'has their backs'... but make sure that 'someone' is not gay Justine Turdo whose unleashed sexual appetites, now that he is rid of his Habitant 'beard' and breeding-cow, are highly unpredicktable.

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Julian Macfarlane's avatar

LOL

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Julian Macfarlane's avatar

Urban warfare is very intense. House to house, brutal and nasty. Such officers would be kept well back, out of range of drones, sniipers, etc.

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jsarnak's avatar

So in your thinking this justifies the ridiculousness of the latest BS articles?? And yet no one from the Corporate media ever talks about how many NATO officers and soldiers are actually fighting in Ukraine

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djean111's avatar

I don't think the ridiculousness of the latest BS articles is being excused, I think this just shows where the intentional exaggeration started from. And yeah, I bet there are a lot more NATO troops in Ukraine than will ever be admitted to.

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