America won't deploy carrier based assets against Iran for the reasons you point out. And without those Israel cannot act against Iran. Therefore this is just more rackety yack coming from the Orange Rabbi camp.
Obviously, a combination of psychological warfare, hubris, brinksmanship! Everyone does realize that any significant attack on Iran will be retaliated with the pummeling of Israel and rapid demise and expelling of whatever power the US has left in its dying sunset days in the Middle East (a parallel process in Ukraine). This Psyop propaganda is just the latest edition and regurgitation of the fact that all the colonial imperial hegemonic victories these days are reduced to the ones fantasized and trumpeted in the mainstream western media. In fact, the more US and Israel get humiliated or diminished, the more boisterous and divorced from reality become the narratives in their media. Defeats and failure are portrayed as major victories and a lot of capital is invested in making sure their image of viability and power is maintained via propaganda and thought control of their population. To see how all this is a bluff and narrative control, one would only have to consider that if the US/Israel entity was able or really believed it could confront Iran militarily, it would be ludicrous to announce such plans in advance and ad nauseam in their media before actually carrying them out or keeping them well hidden until the perfect scenario or opportunity are presented. Iran has known this comical game of the hegemon for several decades and has been amply preparing for such over the same period.
The empire will not allow Islamic republic of Iran to be destroyed. It’s the only trump card the West has to dominate Western Asia and Central Asia. Zionist regime is yesterday’s show… in production the Persians.
The United Snakes of America seems a natural target for those who dislike snakes, physically and symbolically. Iran has never done anything bad to anyone for many hundreds of years, neither has Russia. The US on the other hand...
> On the other hand, a massive attack by the US and Israel would force a response which would necessarily be all out it .. Sink a carrier or two.
I tend to agree.
In case of such an attack supported by the US, we could expect the Iranian trying to eliminate the geatest threads first. Which would be US carriers, and - reflecting the Russian tactics in the Ukraine - oil and gas processing facilities and power plants in Israel, and military air fields.
I suppose at least the Pentagon is aware that many Iranian missiles are specifically designed for the purpose to deny access to Iranian territory. Which means their range is substantially greater than the operating range of the jets these carriers move around.
OTOH, there are confirmed reports about high-ranking officers, who ordered cavalry charges on entrenched enemy artillery positions during WWI. Those practices ended quickly. And history shows it's mostly the declining empires that try to re-fight the last "glorious" war in this way ...
Please note I am talking about Iran's response - not that of the US. The Iranians have demonstrated they have excellent weapons of their own manufacture that can hit and sink carriers.
However, I think the Iranians also realize Israel is the US' proxy, doing their bidding in the Middle East. I agree with others who think the "mad dog & out-of-control" narrative about Netanjahu and the whole political system is a ruse, perfect for imperial plausible denial. It was mostly the US that profited from conflicts in the Middle East, especially control over oil (which equals energy, which equals economy), and transportation routes.
But besides of keeping America's floating steel coffins at bay, the Iranians would need to deal with the empire's "unsinkable carrier", Israel. Which openly displayed a fanatic and psychopathic hatred for everything Arabic and Persian lately - much like the German national socialists.
As a side note, I see two problems for the Iran in case of a possible conflict. The first are Israeli and US submarines, which would fire cruise missiles from very close up. Considering Iranian air defense capabilities, I think coastal regions are most at risk here.
And the second are the Israeli nuclear missiles, of course. Not sure if they dare ...
And as a final note, observing the last-minute machinations of the exiting US administration in the Ukraine, they might be tempted to go against Iran before Trump's inauguration, and especially before the signing of the Iranian-Russian defense pact. I think with the Russians putting their thumb on the scale in this conflict, it would be clear how it ends.
“Within a year, with even more Russian help, Iran will be in an even stronger position to defend itself. And Oreshnik has shown that you don't need nuclear weapons to do that. “
You’re assuming a lot here. 😂
1) Iran will face the same issues as Ukraine when it comes to receiving arms from an ally: it takes YEARS to train an effective combat force. Just like the US can’t send Patriots or The Netherlands and Denmark can’t send a bunch of F-16s to Ukraine without giving Ukrainian pilots year’s worth of training within a few months, the Russians will face the exact same problem when delivering SU-35’s or S400’s.
2a) assuming that Oreshniks actually work is already very optimistic. So far the ‘evidence’ from BOTH sides (NATO claiming it doesn’t work, Russia claiming it’s highly effective) is sketchy at best.
2b) assuming that Russia will place Iran under its protective Oreshnik Umbrella is an even bigger stretch. That would mean that Russia would attack Israeli or US military targets, making a Russia a direct party in any military conflict between Iran and Israel/US/West/NATO/‘Coalition-of-the-Willing.’
2c) assuming that Russia will export “state of the art” (assuming they are as effective as advertised) Oreshniks to Iran is the biggest stretch of ‘em all.
We already saw what Russian S400’s stationed in Syria did against Israeli Air Force airplanes attacking targets inside Syria: absolutely NO-THING. 💡
1.) Iran has a well-trained and experienced military with combat experience. It has developed its own systems comparable to the S400 and Russian radar systems. Iran is also assuming a LONG-TERM build-up of capability.
2.a No assumptions about Oreshnik. There is solid evidence they DO work - and none that they don't.
2b. I did not suggest that Russia would put Iran under its Oreshnik umbrella-- bur rather share technology. As I said, the agreement being signed is largely economic and technological - it is NOT an old-fashioned WW2 type defense pact.
2c. Russian systems perform extraordinarily well in real-world combat -- unlike Western systems. The S400s in Syria were (as I have pointed out many times) not tasked with protecting Syrian assets -- but Russian assets. However, most Israeli attacks were missile attacks with the missiles launched from inside Israel.
1) So if Iran doesn’t need Russian help, why speculate on more Russian help?
2a) Please share. Theo Postol made a pretty interesting presentation on Daniel Davis Deep Dive about 2-3-4 (I can’t remember exactly) weeks ago. Postol is not someone who likes to be used as a propaganda tool, and he had serious reservations about the effectiveness and precision.
2b) You expect Russia to SHARE top secret and cutting edge technology? Sure… 🤡
2c) My point is: WHY didn’t Russia protect Syrian assets? 😉 So WHY would Russia now suddenly start protecting Iranian assets?
Typical that you didn’t address any of my points, I guess that would destroy the Hopium and the “Trust The 3D Chess Plan” narrative.
You really think that Russia will attack US aircraft carriers? 😂 Russia won’t even attack US ships in the Black Sea or US drones loitering near Crimea that are gathering intelligence or are actively supporting Ukraine’s strikes on Russian troops…but somehow in your twisted mind Russia will defend a foreign country by attacking US aircraft carriers for them?
As stated, Russia didn’t even dare attacking Israeli jets bombing they “ally” Syria, and Israel’s military capabilities don’t even come close to US military capabilities.
You watch too many clowns like Ritter, Macgregor, Escobar and Mercouris. 🤡 😂
Sorry... Russia attacked NATO-bulk carriers bringing Missiles and ammunitions to Odessa or the Romanian harbours in the BLACK SEA. The West did not mention that or they said it was a ship exporting Grain...
The point is after Jan 17 Putin the lawyer would presumably feel legally obligated and honor-bound to defend Iran. So the question for USA/Israel at that point would be "do you feel lucky?"
But if Iran uses Russian Missiles to retaliate on an attack on its territory, and the US is shouting "Wolf", Putin will say: "Remember the US-ATACMS missiles the Ukrainians shot at Russia... This is our response...
My suggestion to the Iranians should Israel decide to attack again. Wait for the planes to be in the air and then send missles to destroy the runways of the bases the planes came from; so they don't have a place to land.
Im so glad you've mentioned these facts on your channel. When Alexander came out with all of this BS in his video yesterday about an Israeli/US attack upon Iran. I pointed these things out in my comments on his video. I also made a point of stating all of this knowledge was publicly available. One thing I have learnt over the years. Is that 99% of journalists in my country (UK) are very lazy. As well as being the arrogant snakes that they are. They've got no idea what Iran has at its disposal. If these journalists hadn't noticed, the Iranians are far from being intimidated. With good reason I might ad. I'm just a normal man who takes an interest in such things. I also refuse to believe any of the nonsense spouted by media. Well done on pointing these facts out that you have on your Substack.
I think we have distinguish between "aggregators" -- people who present a range of events appearing in the media -- and "analysts"-- people who think critically and try to find out what's really happening and why. The first category includes the two Alexes and Simplicius (which is why he/ they call himself / themselves "Simplicius". The second includes Media Lens, Caitlin Johnstone, Jonathan Cooke, Karl Sanches, BM Analysis, MoA, Alastair Crooke and others.
I didn't point directly to the Duran. I really like the Duran but I feel that Mercouris spends too much time studying the British media. That's good in a way because the general public still relies on the Media. But his "analyses" fall short of the kind of thing that my good friends at Media Lens do.
I get from his reading of UK & US Media a pretty good sensing of intentions and idea's living there.
I use those in my assessment of what is most probably going to happen...
But there are at least 3 layers with different ways of reacting.
1. The top are the Neocon Biden Administration and related think-tanks. They are the daily operators.
2. Below that are at one side CIA and other deepstate Neocon supporters and at the other the Pentagon and its Admirals and Generals, who know what is possible and what isn't (like an attack on Iran) they are the ones who make short term plans (4-25 years).
3. Below that lies the Monster, it has projects that can last years, decennia and even centuries. Its defines the Grand Master Plan. It is over 3000 years old and when an Empire is Collapsing, it is used to migrate in time to the new Host, feeding itself on that one and slowly encapsulating it and starts sucking it dry.
One of the pundits questioning the neocon empire's plans for Iran pointed out that in the late 1940's US decided not to bomb Soviets nuclear labs because they would double down, get the bomb anyway and be "mad as hornets!"
Of course, the neocons and their zionists are not that thoughtful.
Note Tehran area is far away from Israel as Sanaa. They have not blunted the Houthi.
Should US fly from Jordan, Iraq, Qatar or Turkiye those targets are reachable!
This is Orwellian 1984 world that we’re seeing in Europe. And I don’t see… it is obviously worse of all in England under Starmer and the Labour Party. But what’s happening to the Labour Party is the same thing that’s happened to the German Social Democratic Party that’s now fallen behind the Alternative for Deutschland in the polls and is going to be pretty much wiped out in this month’s election. And you’re going to have one European country after another going the way of Romania. What are you going to do when people do not vote for the United States, but vote for their own national welfare? To the United States that means you’re not a friend anymore.
And that racism against Russians runs deep in eurotrashlandia. Fucking Nazis want the head choppers as amigos.
🏴☠️ Report | Julani's Telegram channel blurred the picture of the German Foreign Minister for not wearing a hijab. Meanwhile, they continue chanting ‘free Iranian women.’
These psycho-preachers seem to be struggling to maintain their puppetry and propaganda at the same time, unable to navigate such situations effectively. So; If crypto-Caliph Julani can see her without headgear, then why not his crypto-Zio-Muslim Ummah? First class idiots!
There are three principal snakes in the world today whose heads need to be chopped off: The United Snakes of the US, Israel, and the UK.
Uncle Joe is resentful that Woodrow Wilson has title of most rotten USA president
He has two weeks still
America won't deploy carrier based assets against Iran for the reasons you point out. And without those Israel cannot act against Iran. Therefore this is just more rackety yack coming from the Orange Rabbi camp.
Obviously, a combination of psychological warfare, hubris, brinksmanship! Everyone does realize that any significant attack on Iran will be retaliated with the pummeling of Israel and rapid demise and expelling of whatever power the US has left in its dying sunset days in the Middle East (a parallel process in Ukraine). This Psyop propaganda is just the latest edition and regurgitation of the fact that all the colonial imperial hegemonic victories these days are reduced to the ones fantasized and trumpeted in the mainstream western media. In fact, the more US and Israel get humiliated or diminished, the more boisterous and divorced from reality become the narratives in their media. Defeats and failure are portrayed as major victories and a lot of capital is invested in making sure their image of viability and power is maintained via propaganda and thought control of their population. To see how all this is a bluff and narrative control, one would only have to consider that if the US/Israel entity was able or really believed it could confront Iran militarily, it would be ludicrous to announce such plans in advance and ad nauseam in their media before actually carrying them out or keeping them well hidden until the perfect scenario or opportunity are presented. Iran has known this comical game of the hegemon for several decades and has been amply preparing for such over the same period.
The empire will not allow Islamic republic of Iran to be destroyed. It’s the only trump card the West has to dominate Western Asia and Central Asia. Zionist regime is yesterday’s show… in production the Persians.
One must remember St. George slaying the dragon embedded in this snake pit mythology for the insane are blind to reason.
Piet Hein is relevant here I think
The Final Touch
Idiots are really
One hundred per cent
When they are also
Intelligent.
The United Snakes of America seems a natural target for those who dislike snakes, physically and symbolically. Iran has never done anything bad to anyone for many hundreds of years, neither has Russia. The US on the other hand...
> On the other hand, a massive attack by the US and Israel would force a response which would necessarily be all out it .. Sink a carrier or two.
I tend to agree.
In case of such an attack supported by the US, we could expect the Iranian trying to eliminate the geatest threads first. Which would be US carriers, and - reflecting the Russian tactics in the Ukraine - oil and gas processing facilities and power plants in Israel, and military air fields.
I suppose at least the Pentagon is aware that many Iranian missiles are specifically designed for the purpose to deny access to Iranian territory. Which means their range is substantially greater than the operating range of the jets these carriers move around.
OTOH, there are confirmed reports about high-ranking officers, who ordered cavalry charges on entrenched enemy artillery positions during WWI. Those practices ended quickly. And history shows it's mostly the declining empires that try to re-fight the last "glorious" war in this way ...
Please note I am talking about Iran's response - not that of the US. The Iranians have demonstrated they have excellent weapons of their own manufacture that can hit and sink carriers.
Yes, I'm aware of that.
However, I think the Iranians also realize Israel is the US' proxy, doing their bidding in the Middle East. I agree with others who think the "mad dog & out-of-control" narrative about Netanjahu and the whole political system is a ruse, perfect for imperial plausible denial. It was mostly the US that profited from conflicts in the Middle East, especially control over oil (which equals energy, which equals economy), and transportation routes.
But besides of keeping America's floating steel coffins at bay, the Iranians would need to deal with the empire's "unsinkable carrier", Israel. Which openly displayed a fanatic and psychopathic hatred for everything Arabic and Persian lately - much like the German national socialists.
As a side note, I see two problems for the Iran in case of a possible conflict. The first are Israeli and US submarines, which would fire cruise missiles from very close up. Considering Iranian air defense capabilities, I think coastal regions are most at risk here.
And the second are the Israeli nuclear missiles, of course. Not sure if they dare ...
And as a final note, observing the last-minute machinations of the exiting US administration in the Ukraine, they might be tempted to go against Iran before Trump's inauguration, and especially before the signing of the Iranian-Russian defense pact. I think with the Russians putting their thumb on the scale in this conflict, it would be clear how it ends.
“Within a year, with even more Russian help, Iran will be in an even stronger position to defend itself. And Oreshnik has shown that you don't need nuclear weapons to do that. “
You’re assuming a lot here. 😂
1) Iran will face the same issues as Ukraine when it comes to receiving arms from an ally: it takes YEARS to train an effective combat force. Just like the US can’t send Patriots or The Netherlands and Denmark can’t send a bunch of F-16s to Ukraine without giving Ukrainian pilots year’s worth of training within a few months, the Russians will face the exact same problem when delivering SU-35’s or S400’s.
2a) assuming that Oreshniks actually work is already very optimistic. So far the ‘evidence’ from BOTH sides (NATO claiming it doesn’t work, Russia claiming it’s highly effective) is sketchy at best.
2b) assuming that Russia will place Iran under its protective Oreshnik Umbrella is an even bigger stretch. That would mean that Russia would attack Israeli or US military targets, making a Russia a direct party in any military conflict between Iran and Israel/US/West/NATO/‘Coalition-of-the-Willing.’
2c) assuming that Russia will export “state of the art” (assuming they are as effective as advertised) Oreshniks to Iran is the biggest stretch of ‘em all.
We already saw what Russian S400’s stationed in Syria did against Israeli Air Force airplanes attacking targets inside Syria: absolutely NO-THING. 💡
1.) Iran has a well-trained and experienced military with combat experience. It has developed its own systems comparable to the S400 and Russian radar systems. Iran is also assuming a LONG-TERM build-up of capability.
2.a No assumptions about Oreshnik. There is solid evidence they DO work - and none that they don't.
2b. I did not suggest that Russia would put Iran under its Oreshnik umbrella-- bur rather share technology. As I said, the agreement being signed is largely economic and technological - it is NOT an old-fashioned WW2 type defense pact.
2c. Russian systems perform extraordinarily well in real-world combat -- unlike Western systems. The S400s in Syria were (as I have pointed out many times) not tasked with protecting Syrian assets -- but Russian assets. However, most Israeli attacks were missile attacks with the missiles launched from inside Israel.
1) So if Iran doesn’t need Russian help, why speculate on more Russian help?
2a) Please share. Theo Postol made a pretty interesting presentation on Daniel Davis Deep Dive about 2-3-4 (I can’t remember exactly) weeks ago. Postol is not someone who likes to be used as a propaganda tool, and he had serious reservations about the effectiveness and precision.
2b) You expect Russia to SHARE top secret and cutting edge technology? Sure… 🤡
2c) My point is: WHY didn’t Russia protect Syrian assets? 😉 So WHY would Russia now suddenly start protecting Iranian assets?
I think the big issue is whether Russia will defend Iran against USA/Israel after Jan 17.
If so, US aircraft carriers will very likely be destroyed by Russia, just like they would be destroyed by China anywhere near Taiwan.
DoD knows this, thus the closing window of opportunity for blood-lusting neo-Nazi-supporting USA/Israel.
See my comments above.
Typical that you didn’t address any of my points, I guess that would destroy the Hopium and the “Trust The 3D Chess Plan” narrative.
You really think that Russia will attack US aircraft carriers? 😂 Russia won’t even attack US ships in the Black Sea or US drones loitering near Crimea that are gathering intelligence or are actively supporting Ukraine’s strikes on Russian troops…but somehow in your twisted mind Russia will defend a foreign country by attacking US aircraft carriers for them?
As stated, Russia didn’t even dare attacking Israeli jets bombing they “ally” Syria, and Israel’s military capabilities don’t even come close to US military capabilities.
You watch too many clowns like Ritter, Macgregor, Escobar and Mercouris. 🤡 😂
On: Fulgurite:
Sorry... Russia attacked NATO-bulk carriers bringing Missiles and ammunitions to Odessa or the Romanian harbours in the BLACK SEA. The West did not mention that or they said it was a ship exporting Grain...
->https://swentr.site/russia/604437-russia-hit-ship-weapons-ukraine/
Sander
The point is after Jan 17 Putin the lawyer would presumably feel legally obligated and honor-bound to defend Iran. So the question for USA/Israel at that point would be "do you feel lucky?"
See my comments above. Iran doesn't need Russian help to sink US carriers.
Thank you. You point at important facts.
But if Iran uses Russian Missiles to retaliate on an attack on its territory, and the US is shouting "Wolf", Putin will say: "Remember the US-ATACMS missiles the Ukrainians shot at Russia... This is our response...
Just saying.
Sander
My suggestion to the Iranians should Israel decide to attack again. Wait for the planes to be in the air and then send missles to destroy the runways of the bases the planes came from; so they don't have a place to land.
They should have done that the first time.
Im so glad you've mentioned these facts on your channel. When Alexander came out with all of this BS in his video yesterday about an Israeli/US attack upon Iran. I pointed these things out in my comments on his video. I also made a point of stating all of this knowledge was publicly available. One thing I have learnt over the years. Is that 99% of journalists in my country (UK) are very lazy. As well as being the arrogant snakes that they are. They've got no idea what Iran has at its disposal. If these journalists hadn't noticed, the Iranians are far from being intimidated. With good reason I might ad. I'm just a normal man who takes an interest in such things. I also refuse to believe any of the nonsense spouted by media. Well done on pointing these facts out that you have on your Substack.
I think we have distinguish between "aggregators" -- people who present a range of events appearing in the media -- and "analysts"-- people who think critically and try to find out what's really happening and why. The first category includes the two Alexes and Simplicius (which is why he/ they call himself / themselves "Simplicius". The second includes Media Lens, Caitlin Johnstone, Jonathan Cooke, Karl Sanches, BM Analysis, MoA, Alastair Crooke and others.
I didn't point directly to the Duran. I really like the Duran but I feel that Mercouris spends too much time studying the British media. That's good in a way because the general public still relies on the Media. But his "analyses" fall short of the kind of thing that my good friends at Media Lens do.
On Alexander...
I get from his reading of UK & US Media a pretty good sensing of intentions and idea's living there.
I use those in my assessment of what is most probably going to happen...
But there are at least 3 layers with different ways of reacting.
1. The top are the Neocon Biden Administration and related think-tanks. They are the daily operators.
2. Below that are at one side CIA and other deepstate Neocon supporters and at the other the Pentagon and its Admirals and Generals, who know what is possible and what isn't (like an attack on Iran) they are the ones who make short term plans (4-25 years).
3. Below that lies the Monster, it has projects that can last years, decennia and even centuries. Its defines the Grand Master Plan. It is over 3000 years old and when an Empire is Collapsing, it is used to migrate in time to the new Host, feeding itself on that one and slowly encapsulating it and starts sucking it dry.
Sander.
One of the pundits questioning the neocon empire's plans for Iran pointed out that in the late 1940's US decided not to bomb Soviets nuclear labs because they would double down, get the bomb anyway and be "mad as hornets!"
Of course, the neocons and their zionists are not that thoughtful.
Note Tehran area is far away from Israel as Sanaa. They have not blunted the Houthi.
Should US fly from Jordan, Iraq, Qatar or Turkiye those targets are reachable!
Good stuff here from Michael Hudson:
https://www.unz.com/mhudson/cracks-in-the-empire-is-the-american-superpower-fading/?utm_source=email&utm_campaign=mhudson
This is Orwellian 1984 world that we’re seeing in Europe. And I don’t see… it is obviously worse of all in England under Starmer and the Labour Party. But what’s happening to the Labour Party is the same thing that’s happened to the German Social Democratic Party that’s now fallen behind the Alternative for Deutschland in the polls and is going to be pretty much wiped out in this month’s election. And you’re going to have one European country after another going the way of Romania. What are you going to do when people do not vote for the United States, but vote for their own national welfare? To the United States that means you’re not a friend anymore.
+--+
AmeriKKKa, the doomed and doomers.
https://paulokirk.substack.com/p/especially-the-intellectual-and-developmental
I was sorry to see Hudson so negwtive on Russia's prospects with the West but he's probably right. We jumped the shark on Russophobia long ago.
And that racism against Russians runs deep in eurotrashlandia. Fucking Nazis want the head choppers as amigos.
🏴☠️ Report | Julani's Telegram channel blurred the picture of the German Foreign Minister for not wearing a hijab. Meanwhile, they continue chanting ‘free Iranian women.’
These psycho-preachers seem to be struggling to maintain their puppetry and propaganda at the same time, unable to navigate such situations effectively. So; If crypto-Caliph Julani can see her without headgear, then why not his crypto-Zio-Muslim Ummah? First class idiots!