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Thierry Bruno's avatar

If your reasoning is correct, i.e. that the liars who govern us in the West don't know they're lying, that simply means they're even more morons than I feared. Taking into account the facts and the context cannot lead people with a functioning brain to the conclusions drawn by Stoltenberg, to name but one. So either this guy is a pathological liar or he's an idiot. That said, the two are not mutually exclusive. In fact, I think it's characteristic of those who govern in the US camp.

A comment on the genocide of the peoples of North America. As much as I dislike the British, it's worth noting that the genocide of the American Indian population didn't begin until the advent of the "greatest nation in the history of the world": the United States. Previously, in their territorial wars, the English and French had sought the alliance of native tribes.

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TomG's avatar

I have long thought the hero Churchill and the villain Hitler were deep down near-kindred spirits. Enough said on that.

I lean to the Johnstone case that the liers know they are lying. Back in 1999, I was at a guest ranch in Texas and then former Attorney General of Texas, Jim Maddox was there as guest as well. We had no interaction, but we did sit across the room and listen as he pontificated with another political operative about "perception is reality." I found the entire conversation quite revolting as they basically strategized how to lie and get away with it.

I'm even more fully persuaded now the liers know they are lying as we witness the absolute control of the narrative and crushing of dissent through censorship and worse. Certainly, to Julian's list of lies in which we are ensconced, I have zero argument. The banality of it all is astounding. The evil the lies engender, horrifying.

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